Martha-Ann Alito, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, said she wished to fly a Sacred Heart flag outside of her house but decided against it out of fear that it would have negative repercussions for her husband.

During the Supreme Court Historical Society’s annual dinner on June 3, liberal activist Lauren Windsor secretly recorded her conversations with Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Samuel Alito, and his wife Martha-Ann Alito. 

Posing as a conservative Christian, Windsor acted sympathetic toward Martha-Ann Alito regarding her family’s media exposure over the flying of an “Appeal to Heaven” flag and an upside-down American flag outside of their two places of residence. The upside-down American flag was perceived by some as a statement of support for Jan. 6 rioters who questioned the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. The Appeal to Heaven flag originated during the Revolutionary War as a symbol of freedom and “God’s power for justice.”

Samuel Alito said that those flags flying were a decision made by his wife and not him.

“It’s OK. It’s OK, because if they come back to me, I’ll get them. I’m going to be liberated, and I’m going to get them.” She added, “There’s a five-year defamation statute of limitations.”

Windsor talked about how to bring America back to a godly place, and in response, Martha-Ann Alito talked about plans to wave flags in protest to her neighbor’s Pride flag flown at their vacation home in New Jersey. 

“You know what I want? I want a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag because I have to look across the lagoon at the Pride flag for the next month,” Martha-Ann Alito said.

Affirming that her husband has no part in what flags fly outside of their homes, Martha-Ann Alito said her husband asked her not to fly any flags protesting the LGBT rights movement. 

“I won’t do it because I am deferring to you [referring to Alito],” Martha-Ann Alito said. “But when you are free of this nonsense, I’m putting it up, and I’m going to send them a message every day, maybe every week, I’ll be changing the flags. They’ll be all kinds. I made a flag in my head. This is how I satisfy myself. I made a flag. It’s white and has yellow and orange flames around it. And in the middle is the word ‘vergogna.’ ‘Vergogna’ in Italian means shame — vergogna. V-E-R-G-O-G-N-A. Vergogna. Shame, shame, shame on you.”

Windsor also made a comment that Martha-Ann Alito was being persecuted as “a convenient stand-in for anybody who’s religious.”

Martha-Ann Alito responded that her German heritage gave her the strength to withstand assaults.

“Look at me. Look at me. I’m German,” Martha-Ann Alito said. “I’m from Germany. My heritage is German. You come after me, I’m going to give it back to you. And there will be a way — it doesn’t have to be now — but there will be a way they will know. Don’t worry about it. God — you read the Bible. Psalm 27 is my psalm. Mine. Psalm 27, the Lord is my God and my rock. Of whom shall I be afraid? Nobody.”

According to Windsor, she believed it was important to record her conversations with the justice’s wife since it gives her insight on the justice’s thoughts.

“I don’t consider Martha-Ann a private figure, given that she’s married to a Supreme Court justice, and she’s a window into his thinking,” Windsor told Rolling Stone. 

Windsor, who shared the audio recordings on X (where she states that she is a “journalist”), also shared in the thread a link for people to donate through Act Blue, a left-leaning fundraising website.

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James Duff, the executive director of the Supreme Court Historical Society, told the Washington Examiner, “Our policy is to ensure that all attendees, including the Justices, are treated with respect.”

“We condemn the surreptitious recording of Justices at the event, which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening,” Duff said, adding attendees are told that “discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting Justices, or a Justice’s jurisprudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the Society.”