Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, President-elect Donald Trump’s picks to lead the new Department of Government Efficiency, are launching a podcast to talk about the agency’s work.
“We want to bring the public along with us, to lift the curtain, to take us behind the scenes of what actually that waste, fraud, and abuse in government looks like,” Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X. “However bad you think it is, it’s probably worse. But we don’t want to do this to just expose the problem. We want to do it to solve the problem.”
A political outsider running for president during the 2024 election cycle, Ramaswamy put himself on the map and caught the eye of Trump. After dropping out of the presidential race, the 39-year-old entrepreneur endorsed Trump for president and joined him on the campaign trail.
As for Musk, the SpaceX CEO owned a super PAC that spent $200 million campaigning for Trump.
Trump promised on the campaign trail to overhaul federal bureaucracies completely in an effort to cut down on spending waste and red tape.
The federal government is operating on a $2 trillion deficit with over $36 trillion in national debt. However, Ramaswamy and Musk have vowed that they would be able to trim off the deficit with initiatives such as eliminating job protections for federal employees and ending remote work.
Upon taking charge of X, Musk cut approximately 80% of the company’s workforce.
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But DOGE won’t actually be a new department. Instead, it will just be an advisory commission that will give advice and guidance.
“From the outside, will Musk and Ramaswamy be able to do a whole lot? It’s very difficult to see how that will be the case,” Max Stier, president and CEO of the Partnership for Public Service, told NBC News. “There are 450 departments when you look at the major components of our government. The people who run them are the leaders who are being named right now. You can say ‘Do this’ or ‘Do that’ from the outside, but to get it done, you need people who really know how to make things happen and to execute effectively.”